Published : March 04, 2010 :: 15:03:51 [ 4,033 views ]

Sifu Mcinnes – Bizarre Wall Climber & Supposed Kung Fu Hardman – Exposed As A Fraud


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Robert McInnes, the prominent Pattaya businessman and self-styled kung fu master, recently released on Bt100,000 bail after being arrested on firearms charges, may not be all that he represented himself as being, recent evidence suggests.

The evidence from the investigation into the background of Robert ‘Sifu’ McInnes by the New Zealand Sunday Newspaper, NZ Herald, reveals that McInnes’ supposedly exalted kung fu credentials, specifically having been Shaolin-trained, may not actually be true. Instead, McInnes joins the ranks of the Pattaya ‘Walter Mitties’, fabricating exalted martial arts’ credentials for himself.

To have undergone the rigorous martial arts training at the Shaolin Temple, renowned fifteen hundred-year-old home of kung fu, would be sufficient to establish the credentials of any aspirant kung fu master, which is what McInnes claimed for himself. He maintains that he had penetrated deep into Northern China in the 1960s, to learn the ways of Sir Dorr (Way of the Snake) from Shaolin warrior monks, but evidence at his 1989 firearms trial, proves instead that he was studying maths and English at Wesley and De La Salle Colleges, Auckland, at the time. Rick Littlewood, a Judo “sensei” who has known McInnes for 25 years, said he was “all talk”. Another bona fide martial arts expert, Nigel Hay, chief instructor for the New Zealand Karate Association said of McInnes “He wanted to be Rambo. He was too young to be ‘the master’,” he claimed to be.”

 

In Auckland, New Zealand in the late 1980s, McInnes inevitably attracted thousands of like-minded souls, who, mesmerized by the media glorification of kung fu, flocked to his grandiose-sounding extreme ‘Sir Dorr’ brand of kung fu. He apparently insisted his acolytes shave off their hair and swear allegiance to him, even beating their heads bloody against the floor to improve their chi, and self-discipline. These “head-banger” acolytes, with signature scars on their foreheads, were then contracted out as bouncers.  Karate expert Hay asserts ”He was trying to be a guru to those young lads.”

McInnes also tried to impress his own kung fu instructors and peers at the New Zealand Karate Association. Chief instructor Nigel Hay recalls “I remember one day we were walking to the pub after training and he started trying to walk up walls, it was just bizarre … I think he made up a lot of the stuff he claimed to have done, ” the NZ Herald on Sunday reported.

 

In common with many self-proclaimed experts, McInnes adopted a heavy-handed approach to his training, sometimes going way beyond safety conventions. At his trial it was recounted how, in July 1989, he once used live-fire exercises to toughen up his trainees in their “adrenalin training, shooting .22 rifle bullets, some as near as 40cm, from the water-filled ditch where three trainees were almost immersed. Following this, he forced the three to attempt to swim across the flooded Waiwera River, but, due to the inclement weather and strong current, one of the trainees, 17-year-old Jason Dooley, was swept away and drowned. “Although he was never charged over the drowning, McInnes was sentenced to 10-months’ periodic detention for discharging a weapon likely to endanger the life of his students,” the NZ Herald on Sunday reported.

Evidently, as his notorious trip around Pattaya shows, tooled up as if for urban guerilla warfare, McInnes is still suffering from severe delusions of grandeur as a ‘super’, but highly dangerous, ‘martial arts warrior’.

Taliesin Verity
Chief-Reporter
news@pattayadailynews.com

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MTSgrind
said :
go jump on his crotch then shane, he is a wanker pure an simple. Pattaya evolves people like this pointless talent you speak of, believe me, anything good about the guy has evaporated. Now run along and give him his morning BJ little shaney.
Email : MTSgrind@hotmail.com Date : 2010-10-08 11:00:26
Shane Bentley
said :
One other comment. Sifu Mcinnes's school Honours all other Martial Arts. We will never rubbish another person’s style as they are all good. We all have weakness and as we evolve, these weaknesses grow into strengths. These are droplets of Sifu's teachings and are quite sensibly true.
Email : shanebentley88@gmail.com Date : 2010-10-08 09:52:36
Shane Bentley
said :
Sifu Mcinnes is a skilled martial artist. His techniques are sharp and deadly without question. His training methods are unusual but effective. His students are a testimony to his teachings, Lawyers, Airline Pilots, Bankers etc, and career minded people whom get a task done without moaning about it. An employers dream.
Sifu Mcinnes runs a successful school in Thailand and really doesn't need to justify his credentials anymore as he is a seasoned expert in his field of practise and teachings.
Email : shanebentley88@gmail.com Date : 2010-10-08 09:41:00
Peter
said :
I would say Berniewhyte you certainly do not know the man! He left NZ oweing thousands of dollars to different people and companies!
Email : noreply@yahoo.uk Date : 2010-04-05 17:28:54
berniewhyte
said :
to everyone that has written all this shit about sifu i can see you do not no him our have ever meet the man he has done more than any of you have done in your life you all i would say spend your time sitting at home on your fat arses eating ice cream and choclate woundering who u can talk crap about to try and make yourselfs feel good i knew sifu in nz and he was always very helpful and had respect given to him.
Email : berniewhytenz@hotmail.com Date : 2010-04-03 15:42:30
Sam
said :
He made his money by running 'boiler room scams'. Bolier room scams involve cold calling vulnerable people and getting them to invest $10,000 for some 'shares' in a non existent company.

His biggest scam was the Brute Force Energy Drink.

Sadly the weakest and most vulnerable people are targeted.

He is a good martial artist but also a very twisted individual. Stealing money off old ladies to finance fast cars is disgraceful.

His company is on many foreign watchlists. It is common knowledge he is involved in fraudulent activities, he stays out of jail by paying people off with money stolen from 'investors' (aka little old ladies)

http://www.fido.gov.au/fido/fido.nsf/byheadline/Cold-calling-blacklist-I?openDocument
Email : sam@hotmail.com Date : 2010-03-25 03:06:19
Sisuk Peddie Dordevich
said :
In response to Comments posted by New Zealand Martial Artists Rick Littlewood AND Nigel Hay, Firstly I have known Rick Littlewood for many years, my students have purchased uniforms from his queen street shop, If his comments posted in the NZ herald are true then he is a hpacrit, only 1 week before his comments one of my blackbelts was in his shop, Rick had nothing but praise for the Sir Ge Dorr Tradition in New Zealand as have many martial arts teachers, we have stood the test of time now over 30 years in New Zealand, our senior students because of there skills have worked in many expertise proffessions such as the Nz film industry, some are employed on international close protection assignments, in short short we produce good students and instructors regardless of what takes place overseas. As far as nigel hay is concerned he does not even qualify for comment, anyone who shakes your hand and then talks behind your back to the media is nothing more than a jealous coward and does not deserve the title of martial arts instructor. During the 1980 our organisation controled many of the Auckland nightclubs, we worked under very strict ethics, we were challenged many times in our security role by Gangs, Triads and drunken idiots, in each case we fought only when needed and never were defeated, people felt safe going to clubs where our students were situated, we never took drugs, or drank to excess, we simply worked to support our full time training routine headed by Sifu Mcinnes, he stood on the doors with us, fought with us and was always ready to give his shirt of his back to help us.
In Thailand he has trained world champions recognised in Thailand, at the recent World Kumite event held in Thailand over 25 different countries sent there competitors to this full contact event, It was the Thailand Sir Ge Dorr students who fought and won the event, look up World Kumite Organisation and see the results for yourselves, HOW is it possible for a so called martial arts fake to train such people to such standards beating all competitors ? Dont be fools, dont beleive everything you read, the NZ herald has not done any updates on the story and there are many supporting everything Sifu Mcinnes has said so far, The NZ herald has become nothing more than a propaganda machine, there first story was just cut and pasted from a thailand paper inclusive of spelling mistakes.
Old saying is I THINK VERY APPROPIATE, ' Good news stays in the gates, bad news travels one thousand miles.
Email : peddiedordevich@xtra.co.nz Date : 2010-03-17 12:56:13
john
said :
billy get your tongue out of his arse and take off your i love sifu shirt.... sifu is a cunt!and a boiler room scammer.............
Email : john@hotmail.com Date : 2010-03-13 15:11:43
Tina Suriyawong
said :
Hi I am Green belt
Email : tinatini1095@hotmail.com Date : 2010-03-12 13:21:04
sds
said :
Whether or not Sifu has trained in China, Sifu is real and his extraordinary skills are real. On the point of China, I take him at his word, but it does not matter to me. MA means artist of war, and he is that. If you want to look at MA philosophy, then there are no masters, unless you choose to be or have one. "He Who Knows Others Is Wise. He Who Knows Himself Is Enlightened." - Tao Te Ching. Only one who devotes himself to a cause with his whole body and soul can be a true master. Sifu has done that. If you want to examine Sifu’s skills – he has nothing to prove, as he has long ago proved his skills. However, if you which to challenge one of his inner circle fighters, I’m sure they would oblige anyone to test them in the ring, and if it is no holds barred, I’m sure it would not take much of your time.
Email : noreply@thanks.com Date : 2010-03-10 06:14:20
Billy Roczaz
said :
FOFEIOEHIOEFHO wrote:
I DO KNOW SIFU THE PRICK, I HAVE AHOUSE BIGGER THEN HIS IN VIEW TALAY VILLAS,+I HAVE MORE MONEY THEN HIM SO FUCK YOU BILL THE QUEER.

Billy Roczaz Reply:
Thank you for this information its really interesting, but all it tells me though is if that was the truth YOU ARE A BIGGER PRICK!!
Email : roczaz@yahoo.com Date : 2010-03-09 22:46:26
Rob
said :
Seems to me that a lot of people know but really don't know this chap. If he was in Northern China in the 60's, then he must be mid to late 50's at least and I don't think he is that old.
Even if he was 15 yrs. old in 1969, he would now be 55 or 56 yrs. old. Sorry, facts don't seem to support that story. It seems to me that most of you guys are of the same type as he in that you all appear to be full of you know what. Can we quit the bickering and prejudice and get on with other stories worth reading about. Maybe he was close friend of Caridine (sp) and likes to tie himself up for self gratification. Really guys, lets get on with it and start walking on rice paper........
Email : robbod@yahoo.com Date : 2010-03-08 23:41:25
FOFEIOEHIOEFHO
said :
I DO KNOW SIFU THE PRICK, I HAVE AHOUSE BIGGER THEN HIS IN VIEW TALAY VILLAS,+I HAVE MORE MONEY THEN HIM SO FUCK YOU BILL THE QUEER
Email : RIJUHHIO4RIOUH@YAHOO.COM Date : 2010-03-08 21:06:57
Billy Roczaz
said :
To eeeeee and G. Wrong again I don't know Gary and you don't know Sifu if you did you wouldn't spell his name Sife. Your aptness to render such myopic presupposition interpolations is clear evidence you are perfidious purveyors of deception with your load of pernicious trash the quantum of your comments with its denigrating imbalance and prejudice.
I believe you have made vindictive allegations with vexatious intent, two questions why are you obsessed with tongues in bums and what is a mong? G why are you obsessed with bum lickers ? Are you eeeeee's mate? ooooo!
Email : roczaz@yahoo.com Date : 2010-03-08 14:32:54
G
said :
"I no that he didn't like going out on swat, but they asked him..they wanted his support.. "

HAHAHAHA what a load of BALLS.

Bumlickers the truth (which most of us have known for some time) is finally out on this degenerate and criminal sociopath. Your efforts are futile.
Email : g@g.com Date : 2010-03-08 10:02:49
eeeeee
said :
Billy,gary same person. ARe you finished putting you tongue up sifus ass yet? sifu is a nasty piece of work who has stolen money from allot of people.And yes i did say that to his face.Fuck you sife you mong
Email : eeeeeeeee@fucku.com Date : 2010-03-07 22:05:28
Billy Roczaz
said :
To GARY Good Letter!. Sifu McInnes has trained fighters who have won International Martial Arts Events, WBA Boxing Titles, K1 Titles and Muay Thai Titles. It seems the two small time NZ nobody’s Nigel Hay and Rick Littlewood are jealous of McInnes success. They are living in the past they comment on events that took place in the 1980's and neither has seen McInnes in 20 years but both go on to rubbish him. Unlike McInnes neither Hay or Littlewood has ever trained a world ranked fighter. The facts are McInnes has trained fighters in his gym in Thailand for the past 20 years many have achieved intenational success and the martial arts students continue to be graded and their grades accepted by World Martial Arts Associations.
GAV dream on Sifu doesn’t partake in street fights. You are full of it.
HAROLD how can a fake train fighters who win world titles? KEN you are so dumb your comments are stupid. AUSSIEBKK what a jerk you are saying the reason you stopped going to bars was because of too many wannabe fighters what a dickhead. You are certainly no Aussie. Most guys stop going to bars because a lack of girls or in your case maybe boys? HONG KONG FUEY: your name says it all! You contradict yourself by saying he knows nothing about martial arts except his own form of karate. When was karate not a martial art?
To all the other perfidious purveyors of deception each with a load of pernicious trash the quantum of your comments enjoy your moment of glory.
Email : roczaz@yahoo.com Date : 2010-03-07 21:20:42
willsmith
said :
To Gav you are a real toughie I bet you once challenged a 90year old to a fight or was it a 9 year old? Either way I tell you to you have never challenged McInnes to a fight,I can proove that because you are still able to type the biggest lot of bullshit about how tough you are. You see,Gav,if you ever fought "Sifu" you wouldn't be able to do that,you would be a broken man. At least you would have been a "MAN" instead of a sniveling,jealous,no one that you are.
Email : billysmith1010@yahoo.com Date : 2010-03-07 20:19:56
Gary
said :
Man you keyboard worriers... First look at ho wrote the shit about this guy. Some guy nobody knows called Hays . How is a martial arts instructor in compition with this guy. Ha ha motive... This guy has produced more champions in karate, boxing , even thaiboxing....it's al documented... In japan he's treated with full on respect .. I know I travelled with thier team once...ask anyone who really knows him, he is always helping people, I no that he didn't like going out on swat, but they asked him..they wanted his support.. Who are we to judge him , in the world of martial arts they say he is one of the top teachers... Just because someone got jalous and tried to trash him , if you don't know him then at least give him a break or go to his school and see for yourself...I tell you something else if ever you needed his help he would be there... Give I'm a break
Email : Polarbear999@hotmail.com Date : 2010-03-07 10:56:02
Mr Sha
said :
Master Wong would whoop his ass!
Email : mrman@hotmail.com Date : 2010-03-06 21:11:08
Gav
said :
No great suprise here. The bloke is an absolute twat. I have offered him on several times but he's backed down each time. He talks a load of crap.

He can shove his Hummer up his bummer
Email : gavinperfect@paradisecityproperty.com Date : 2010-03-06 11:49:12
harold
said :
another fake in the land of lies..all the douches and double loosers like him join there..
Email : puta.leonela@yahoo.com Date : 2010-03-05 22:07:26
ken
said :
I feel bad for the clowns that paid him for the fake training at his school,If any one of these guys came across a Muay Thai or MMA fighter they would get beaten to a pulp!!
Email : cplgil@yahoo.com Date : 2010-03-05 14:56:03
aussiebkk
said :
There is nothing new about guys like McInnes in Thailand. One of the reasons why i stopped going to bars is because you constantly run into western hobos who claim to be ex SAS, or CIA ops ,or US Delta forces, or black ops . Theyve all watched far too much American television.These weekend warriors are everywhere in Thailand....Boring.
Email : unibkk@hotmail.com Date : 2010-03-05 10:02:56
Kris
said :
Congratulations to the PDN for having the courage to expose this sham, this fraud, and this embarrassment. Bless the new Police chief for saying no to alleged fraudsters associating themselves with the police. Keep up the civic work. The community needs journalists that are not afraid of breaking important stories that benefit everyone, expats and locals combined. Thank you!!
Email : kris1982@inbox.com Date : 2010-03-05 07:45:49
Hong Kong Fuey
said :
I've trained with this guy, he is a nutter but does not know the first thing about Kung Fu. His training is focussed on his own form of Karate. His students do not learn anything of 'the way of the snake', let alone any other Form of Kung Fu, hell, none even know what a basic stance. He's tough but one hell of a Walter Mitty.
Email : hkfuey@hotmail.com Date : 2010-03-04 22:29:41
Art
said :
..Before reporting this I hope the NZ Herald took the triple filter test?
What isthe triple filter Test?
1). Is what they say true? I think some of this is not true
2).Is what they say good? No it's downright bad.
3). Is what they say useful to me. No it's no use and no value whatsoever.
Therfore if it's not true, not good and no use to anyone then why bother to publish this?

If I were a publisher I should be wary of liable if it is not true.
Email : arthurnormartha@yahoo.com Date : 2010-03-04 18:08:19
Harry
said :
Weight gyms and martial arts dojos are full of these types of nutters that were bullied at school.
Not as full as Pattaya though. lol
Email : Harry@hatred.com Date : 2010-03-04 17:05:33

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